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  1. URFinanceSimple
    July 7, 2012

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  2. Theo
    July 6, 2012

    I offer my response by way of poetry…

    Bad Investment?

    I’ve never paid a student loan
    I doubt I ever will
    My monthly tab is half my pay
    I can’t afford that bill

    I defer in perpetuity
    I’m productive and employed
    By law I am called "destitute"
    So, the payments I avoid

    Some might think I live in shame
    Or, if I don’t, I should
    Why didn't you study finance
    So, then you could make good!

    It's clear you wasted too much time
    On humanities and art
    On history and languages
    Does culture make you smart?

    You could have been a lawyer
    Or, learned a decent trade
    America needs engineers
    It’s your fault you’re not paid!

    Screw your wise humanity
    Your care for land and seas
    Get busy and create some wealth
    Fuck your god damned trees

    These taunts I write are just a few
    You’ve heard them all before
    Enjoy your high school income
    For you deserve no more!

    So that is what I’m going to do
    For I don’t need so much
    Just a room to hang my hat
    A place to stay in touch

    With languages and literature
    Artful film and books
    A laptop for my poetry
    Who cares how poor it looks

    I have no need to own a home
    A father I won’t be
    “Loneliness” will not compute
    I live with wild esprit!

    With a bicycle and camping gear
    I’ll hit the roads and trails
    I’ll climb the Adirondack’s peaks
    Explore the hills and dales

    I’ll openly commune with life
    Seek kindness where it lives
    Show my love for Mother Earth
    And everything she gives

    I won’t be sad or frustrated
    That I can’t pay it back
    The law says I don’t have to
    If income’s what I lack

    I’m proud of education
    I’ll pursue it to the hilt
    The elusive trillion dollars?
    Let bankers own the guilt!

    I'm blessed with one small irony
    I work in Ivory Halls
    And close to Master's number two
    To decorate my walls

    The money fairy is not kind
    To me… but I don't care
    I have better fairy friends
    To her I give no prayer

    So, I’m a bad investment?
    I’m sure I’ll die in debt
    But will I still enjoy myself?
    Of course, for sure, YOU BET!

    ***
    Theo J. van Joolen ©2012

    • URFinanceSimple
      July 6, 2012

      Loved it! Best comment ever.

  3. Renaldo Jacobowitz
    June 1, 2012

    I’m still learning from you, as I’m improving myself. I definitely enjoy reading all that is posted on your website.Keep the posts coming. I liked it!

  4. World of Finance
    February 5, 2012

    Nice correlation. ;) I was thankful that I worked extra hard in high school to get scholarships to pay for college. Always a great feeling when hardwork and smart planning pay off.

    • YFS
      February 5, 2012

      Great job on finding scholarships to pay for college. Did you have any student loans? How did you find the scholarships?

  5. Elise @ Black Freela
    February 3, 2012

    I agree with you. This is a perfect analogy (and perfect title – got me hook, line, and sinker!). I've been picking up quite a few student loans (I'm either at or very close to my aggregate limit). The main reason I keep going? I'm so close to finally getting my BACHELOR'S degree – yep Bachelor's. I've been in school seven years and never decided what I wanted to be when I grow up. Now I'm paying the price. I'm a super duper duper senior and have watched most of of the people I went to high school with graduate. But, I digress…

    I'm not looking forward to paying back any of that student loan debt. I think there really has to be a better system – where people can pay a lower amount for a longer period of time. I'd be totally OK with paying $100 per month and not paying it off until I die. I feel like it won't be paid off until then anyway, so the payment may as well be lower…

    My plan, though, is to get into an Graduate Apprenticeship program where I get my full tuition paid plus a stipend. I plan to keep doing what I'm doing now and use the stipend to pay down a good chunk of my student loans (hopefully). After that, I plan to continue on to get my Doctorate. As long as I stay in school, I may be able to avoid loan payments as well. Just trying to find a way around it…lol

    • YFS
      February 4, 2012

      To answer you question about lowering the payment. Student loans can be paid in a graduate loan repayment schedule. What this does is lower your payment amount for the first 4 years or so then gradually increase your payment amount after year 4 so you can pay your loan off within the required term.

      My student loan is being paid under a graduate payment schedule. The first four years I paid 96 dollars. Now I pay 184 dollars / month until my loan is completed.

      If I was you I would definitely look into grants, scholarships and work programs which pay your tuition. The less student loans the better.

      What do you plan on getting your masters and doctorate degrees in?

  6. Miss T @ Prairie Eco
    January 31, 2012

    This post was pure genius. A fantastic parallel indeed. I think they both take responsibility. Just like you can't go around having unprotected sex, you can't just keep borrowing money. Like anything, you need to consider all of your options, the risks involved, and weigh which option provides the most benefit. Just like STD's are easy to catch, loans are easy to get. Students don't understand what a loan means sometimes, even though that is really sad. They don't get how they have to pay them back with interest etc. just like they don't understand that STD's don't always just go away.

    • YFS
      January 31, 2012

      Isn't scarey how closely related student loans and STD's are. Both can change your life drastically!

  7. John | Married (with
    January 31, 2012

    Great stuff. I can't wait to eradicate my STD, I mean student loans. That is the last beast I must slay before I tackle my mortgage.

    • YFS
      January 31, 2012

      Nice! How much do you how? I owe 17k on my loans but can't bring myself to pay them off. The interest rate is only 3.5% and I make so much more money else where.

  8. Pam at MoneyTrail
    January 31, 2012

    You are the king of catchy titles! Excellent comparison!

    • YFS
      January 31, 2012

      Why thank you Pam. This article is similar to a grown up version of the birds and the bees :-)

  9. The Happy Homeowner
    January 31, 2012

    My jaw dropped when I read the title of this post; love it! My 2 cents on this topic is to take full advantage of tuition assistance programs through your employer. If your F-T job doesn't provide this kind of benefit, definitely take on a P-T position that does (Universities are famous for incredible TA programs). Take the classes part-time and be prepared for a bit of a nutty schedule. From someone who has amassed three Masters degrees and a few professional certificates this way, it's DEFINITELY worth it!!

    • YFS
      January 31, 2012

      Woah.. 3 masters degrees. That's amazing. What did you get your degrees in? How are they helping you now? Do you have an article up speaking to how you achieved these feats with minimum cost?

      • The Happy Homeowner
        January 31, 2012

        I definitely will be writing about this in my Confessions of a PF Blogger series, but I should probably also do a separate post about how exactly I navigated this; thanks for the inspiration!

        They're in Psychology, Education, and Anthropology. The latest certificate is soon to be in Strategic Management. The benefits have been varied but have included doors being opened due to having an Ivy League education (I hate how that sounds, but it is true), conversation starters as to why I have so many degrees (personal interest/drive to never stop learning), additional salary increases based on educational level (a great bargaining chip), and a general sense of my work ethic being found once I elaborate that I worked full-time while obtaining all of them. Thankfully, all are in some way applicable to what I do for a day job.

        I also was creative in finding assistantship positions, so for one of them, I ended up being paid by the school to take the classes…haha! But I did amass about $12K in loans from the first two. Now, I find ways to make it free or cheap enough to fit in the monthly budget–I will never take another student loan again!

      • YFS
        January 31, 2012

        12k in loans for 3 master degrees is nothing!!! You worked the hell out of the system. I can't wait for your post about it.

  10. Eric J. Nisall – Dol
    January 31, 2012

    The big difference is that one is cheap and easy to avoid while the other isn't so much (unless you forego college entirely eliminating the need for the loan)!

    • YFS
      January 31, 2012

      True, I would say they both take discipline. As an adult you can't just go all willy nilly and get all the student loans just like you should go unprotected in sexual situations.

  11. Aloysa @ My Broken C
    January 30, 2012

    Haha! I was curious to see what comparison you are going to provide. I could not agree more: the price is high for both!

    • YFS
      January 31, 2012

      The price is high for both… unless your name is Magic Johnson. That guy contracted the deadliest STD and then proceeded to get filthy rich.

  12. Dollar D @ The Dolla
    January 30, 2012

    What a fantastic comparison.

    To take the metaphor further, it turns out the best solution for both is prevention and the way to prevention is through education!

    • YFS
      January 31, 2012

      What are your suggestions for one to acquire education about student loans and sex practices? LOL

      • Dollar D @ The Dolla
        January 31, 2012

        haha, I didn't say "Sex practices", that was you!

        What I'm saying is that education is your best weapon in preventing both STDs and student loans :)

      • YFS
        January 31, 2012

        Nice recovery :-)

  13. CultOfMoney
    January 30, 2012

    Well that made me actually laugh out load at my desk! I agree completely with this idea, unfortunately there isn't a student loan condom that you can use to get most of the benefits and still greatly reduce risks. Well maybe there is, and it is called working during school. Loans certainly are expensive, and it's one thing if your a doctor with a large income in the future that you can likely count on, but those with degrees in philosphy or history, while great degrees, are certainly less likely to make large salaries and pay off loans.

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